The design was heavily influenced by the British Fairbairn-Sykes fighting knife issued to Commando Units. "Marines New SOCOM Pistol". The item "WWII US Marine Raider Camillus Cutlery USMC Stiletto Dagger Fighting Knife WW2" is in sale since Thursday, May 28, 2020. The knife was designed in 1942 and officially issued on a selective basis to the Marines, with priority to elite units such as the Raiders. It was also pointed out that it was brittle and would break even if just dropped, particularly the point. Both were designed hilt heavy, to lie in the hand, to prevent dropping the stiletto. Rogers, Patrick A (December 2003). $5.99 + shipping. Due to the thin tip, even thinner than the tip of the Fairbairn-Sykes Fighting Knife, the stiletto was not designed to be used for opening ration cans or as a pry barto open cases. USMC Major General Oscar F. Peatross a veteran of the famous Makin Island raid and author of the book, Bless 'em All: The Raider Marines of World War II ISBN 0-9652325-0-6 recalled about the stiletto: The Marine Raiders found they could fit the sheath behind the standard issue M1911 pistol holster by inserting the sheath body between the holster body and belt attachment flap and tying the tip of the sheath and holster together with the tie-down thong. The knife once belonged to Master SGT. WWII Marine Raider Stiletto. This piece was made in Sheffield, England by H.G.Long & Co ., a [2] These changes would eventually result in durability problems for the Raider stiletto. However, over time it was discovered that the zinc ions in this alloy have a tendency to leach out, leaving the casting extremely brittle. [2], The history of the U.S. Marine Raider Stiletto began at the Commando Training Centre in Achnacarry, Scotland. The Marine Raider Stiletto is one of the rarest and most sought-after US combat knives from World War II. On 2/3/2021 at 5:05 PM, dmar836 said: Lets see your PP jackets from WWII! Melissa Ugalde ... the Marine Raider Stiletto, in their detachment’s insignia. It was one of the first Marine-designed and Marine-issued knives. It is believed that these sheath variants evolved by trial and error, as the late issues had both staples and plates. However, over time it was discovered that the zinc ions in this alloy have a tendency to leach out, leaving the casting extremely brittle. Oct 24, 2017 - Explore RA's board "Raiders: USMC", followed by 263 people on Pinterest. WWII RAIDERS The year is 1942. As a result more than half of the few Raider stilettos still in existence today have very fine hilt cracks or entire portions of the hilt missing with pieces having simply flaked off; many more have replacement handles. It was introduced during World War I for trench warfare, but its "knuckle duster" hilt was cumbersome and contained nearly 1 pound (0.45 kg) of brass, making the knife expensive to produce. [7] In late 1943 the Raider Stiletto was replaced by the new Marine Corps fighting and utility knife designated 1219C2 (later to become famous as the KA-BAR), a change welcomed by Edson's Marines. These var to final ude the four combination. Later in the year, Liversedge’s 3rd Raider Battalion and Roosevelt’s 4th Raider Battalion were created. One of the deficiencies of the Fleet Marine Force was a lack of fast transport ships that could keep up with a Naval fleet. It was issued to a special unit. p. 52. Due to the thin tip, even thinner than the tip of the Fairbairn-Sykes Fighting Knife, the stiletto was not designed to be used for opening ration cans or as a pry bar to open cases.[11]. The U.S. Marine Raider stiletto was designed for one purpose: killing the enemy, and its design was not compromised. Our knives were always referred to as "killing knives" and they were used to dispatch German soldiers on at least two occasions. This is a beautiful example of a very scarce WWII, USMC/Marine Corp Raider stiletto knife. 1 vintage WW2 Camillus Marine Raider stiletto fighting knife available. At the start of World War II, the Mark I Trench Knife was the only knife issued to Marines. Within the same basic model, four different variants of the Marine Raider sheath have been noted and identified. Their U.S.-made stiletto was identical to the Raiders except it had a parkerized blade and the hilt without the U.S.M.C. Blade measures 6 7/8 from the top of the bump on the hilt. Had a thicker sheet metal gauge been used, it would have been more costly. It was introduced during World War I for trench warfare, but its "knuckle duster" hilt was cumbersome and contained nearly 1 pound (0.45 kg) of brass, making the knife expensive to produce. Their U.S. made stiletto was identical to the Raiders except it had a parkerized blade and the hilt without the U.S.M.C. At the start of World War II, the Mark I Trench Knife was the only knife issued to Marines. McCarthy, John (2008). From investigation, we believe that they are Indian production for WWII. The Marine Raiders were elite units established by the United States Marine Corps during WWII to conduct special amphibious light infantry warfare, particularly in rubber boats. Included in my collection are three challenge coins, Marine Raider from WWII era, Marine Force Recon from Vietnam era and Marine Special Operations Command current era. The Marines of the 1st Raider battalion found the Raider stiletto to be well designed for silent killing, but was of little use for any other purpose, and too frail for general utility tasks. Colonel Clifford H. Shuey designed the knife in 1941. The Marine Corps began issuing the KA-BAR, a combination fighting/utility knife, in 1942 due to the inadequacies of the Mark I. This decay can be delayed to some extent by coating the hilt with petroleum jelly. These types of knives are extremely rare and were known as a Legitimus and Collins #18 Machete V-44 with Green Horn Handle. Because of the decomposing Zinc-alloy handle, the stiletto is one of the rarest knives in the world of militaria collecting, and Knife collecting and existing specimens can be expensive.[12]. Edson.,[6] the USMC 1st Parachute Battalion, and to Marines in the 2nd Marine Raider Battalion commanded by Lt. Col. Evans F. Carlson. Photo By Lance Cpl. Remembering the Marine Raiders of WWII by SOFREP May 14, 2017 Share This: ... Read Next: History of first-hand accounts being kept alive at Marine Raider Museum. The Raider Stiletto has the distinction of being the first US designed fighting knife to be put into production after the United States entered the Second World War. [3] These changes would eventually result in durability problems for the Raider stiletto. United States Marine Corps Raider's Stiletto from WWII. [7] It is believed that as part of the original production run; approximately 500 parkerized units were manufactured.[16]. The stiletto was a finely designed, almost delicate, single-purpose weapon, which did not include a variety of other tasks normally associated with a machete or utility knife. [6], The U.S. Marine Raider stiletto was similar to the Fairbairn-Sykes Fighting Knife. [5], The U.S. Marine Raider stiletto was similar to the Fairbairn-Sykes Fighting Knife. Despite the … In addition, the Mark I could not be held in the "fencing-grip" position, the preferred position for the thrust. I recall that it was darkened but I am unable to recall what was imprinted on the blade. It was issued to a special unit. [4] Shuey largely copied the Fairbairn-Sykes‘pattern, but changed the material specifications of some components (notably the handle) to reduce the need for high-priority strategic materials. Due to the thin tip, even thinner than the tip of the Fairbairn-Sykes Fighting Knife, the stiletto was not designed to be used for opening ration cans or as a pry bar to open cases.[14]. WWII Marine Raider shares his stories with Marines from 1st Marine Raider Battalion. "WWII Marine Raider Stiletto Reborn". It is believed that thinner design was a manufacturing compromise, rather than an attempt to increase the effectiveness of the blade.[8]. [3][4], The U.S. Marine Raider Stiletto was the first knife in United States Marine Corps history to be designed by a U.S. Marine Corps officer, the then Lieutenant Colonel Clifford H. Shuey, who retired as a Brigadier General and was formerly in charge of the Engineer Division at Headquarters Marine Corps. Unfortunately, these staples could severely scar the stiletto blade. This set is incredibly rare. Kundert was visited by members of 1st Marine Raider Battalion on June 11, 2019 to honor his service as a Marine Raider during World War II. This gave more room on their web belt and made both the pistol and stiletto available to the right hand. Vintage USM4 Utica Military Bayonet KNife REPAIR see pics. [3], The Raider stiletto was also issued to the 1st Marine Raider Battalion commanded by Colonel Merritt A. Edson,[5] the 1st Marine Parachute Battalion, and to Marines in the 2nd Marine Raider Battalion commanded by Lt. Col. Evans F. Carlson. The Marine Raiders found they could fit the sheath behind the standard issue M1911 pistol holster by inserting the sheath body between the holster body and belt attachment flap and tying the tip of the sheath and holster together with the tie-down thong. [3], The new knife was manufactured by the Camillus Cutlery Company with 14,370 knives produced; a relatively small number compared to the 2.5 million M-3 Trench Knives issued. The Marine Raiders, however, desired a dagger designed solely for knife fighting, but none were available that met the requirements. Lt. "Edson's" Raiders of 1st Marine Raider Battalion and "Carlson's" Raiders of 2nd Marine Raider Battalion are said to have been the first United States special operations forces to form and see combat during World War II. These variants include the four combinations of with and without steel staples at the throat portion of the sheath and with and without steel tip plates (1.75 in by 2 in), front and back of the sheath to prevent the sharp tip from piercing the scabbard and injuring the wearer.[13]. The stiletto was patterned after the Fairbairn-Sykes Fighting Knife, which was in use at the centre before the arrival of the Marine Raiders. When I brought it home I began doing a little research. The U.S. Marine Raider stiletto was designed for one purpose: killing the enemy, and its design was not compromised. A new type of unit is born in the US Marine Corps. WWII USMC Raider STILETTO ( 2001 Commemorative production by W. R. CASE & SONS CUTLERY with memorial marking on Blade)Instead of CASE's grossly inaccurate Black Leather faux-scabbard is a BENCH- Kundert embodies Spiritus Invictus, meeting one of the original raiders of World War II was both an inspiration and truly an honor,” said a Marine Raider present at the event who asked to remain anonymous due to security concerns. It looks to be a fair copy of an O.S.S. The Marine Raider stiletto blade was "blanked" or stamped out of steel sheet stock. The knife is unmarked and entirely parkerized. Roy C. Rushton, who served as a sniper with the 1st Canadian Parachute Battalion, reported about the stiletto: "I was issued the knife you mention in 1943 or 1944 by our quartermaster stores. Folks, I need some assistance with a Raider Stiletto that has been offered to me for sale. Articles with Swedish-language external links, Articles with Dutch-language external links, Articles incorporating text from Wikipedia, World War II infantry weapons of the United States, Military Fighting Knives – Canadian version of Raider stiletto, Carter's Cutlery Commentaries No. The Marine Raiders, however, desired a dagger designed solely for knife fighting, but none were available that met the requirements. [6][8] After their first combat, many of the Marines in the 2nd Raider Battalion exchanged their Raider stilettos for general-purpose short machetes (machetes pequeños) and hunting knives. A much rarer all-black unmarked version was issued to the 1 Canadian Parachute Battalion. By comparison the Fairbairn-Sykes Fighting Knife was more expensive to make, but stronger. The U.S. Marine Raider stiletto was a stiletto and combat knife issued to the Marine Raiders and 1st Canadian Parachute Battalion during World War II. The knife was designed in 1942 and officially issued on a selective basis to the Marines, with priority to elite units such as the Raiders. These were originally developed in early 1942 and were patterned after the British Fairbarn-Sykes dagger as developed for the British Para's and SOE forces. I recall that it was darkened but I am unable to recall what was imprinted on the blade. As a result, more than half of the few Raider stilettos still in existence today have very fine hilt cracks or entire portions of the hilt missing, with pieces having simply flaked off; many more have replacement handles. The U.S. Marine Raider stiletto was a stiletto and combat knife issued to the Marine Raiders and 1st Canadian Parachute Battalion during World War II. The U.S. Marine Raider stiletto was designed for one purpose: killing the enemy, and its design was not compromised. It was issued ONLY to Raiders, only a few thousand were made and because of the decomposing zinc alloy handle, the stiletto is one of the rarest knives in the military world. Both had a tapered, double-edge blade with stiletto sharp tip and diamond-shaped cross section, sharpened on both cutting edges all the way to the oval crossguard. Unfortunately, these staples could severely scar the stiletto blade. “Mr. [5] Shuey largely copied the F-S knife pattern, but changed the material specifications of some components (notably the handle) to reduce the need for high-priority strategic materials. Because of the decomposing zinc-alloy handle, the stiletto is one of the rarest knives in the world of militaria collecting and knife collecting, and existing specimens can be expensive. The black parkerizing is the same that Camillus used on their Mark 2's … Our knives were always referred to as "killing knives" and they were used to dispatch German soldiers on at least two occasions. Thought Id start off Daves thread with a few of my private purchase jackets that I have in my collection. I have collected a long time and have concentrated on Marine items solely for most of the last decade, but I have never handled one of these nor studied them as much as other areas of my collection. [11], The primary difference was that the U.S. Marine Raider stiletto hilt was a one-piece construction, die-cast directly onto the blade tang, which is the extension of the blade shoulder, concealed by the knife grip. Only 14,370 stilettos were manufactured by the Camillus Company, which were then issued in 1942 to both the 1st and 2nd Marine Raider Battalions as well as to the Marine Corps 1st Parachute Battalion. Price $900.00. The 1st Canadian Parachute Battalion was issued the U.S. Marine Raider stiletto. [12] It is believed that, as part of the original production run, perhaps about 500 parkerized units were manufactured.[13]. In addition, it would have required more steel, a commodity which had to be conserved during the war. USMC Major General Oscar F. 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This is an remake tribute to the WW2 US Marine Corps Raider Stiletto , originally made by the now defunct Camillus Cutlery Company . I recently came across a reproduction version and on a whim purchased without really knowing what I was really getting.